Small Seleucid army - help

[Barritus]

New idea. I think I should update my Kn(F) to Kn(X) and El(O) or El(S) because it is more propper for Antiochus and his fight against Romans.

I would recommend against it. Kn (X) are good against infantry, but count as Kn (I) when fighting other Kn. The additional cost of upgrading your Kn (F) to Kn (X) and your Ele (O) to Ele (S) will cost you other useful elements.

I hope I will be able to collect a Roman army to face my Seleucids. I was always keen on wars between roman empire and Alexanders' Diadochi.

Well, that is a good reason to take a later Seleucid army... :-)

[Barritus]

I suspect you might end up with 0-1 Kn(F) wedge, 0-1 Kn(F) or (X) and the rest as Kn(X).

Do I have to update all Kn to X or is it optional?

The 0-1 Companions do not upgrade to Kn (X). The 0-1 Agema may upgrade to Kn (X). The 2-7 Line Knights must upgrade to Kn (X). 0-2 generals may upgrade.

Of course, this is all what is spelled out in the DBM list book. No one knows how much the list may change when it is published for DBMM.

and have fewer elephants all as (S)

Still max 3 elephants.

But now getting very expensive.

On the other hand, drop those two bolt shooters, and that frees up a lot of the points you need...

[Michal Ciemniewski]

Thx. They seems to be useful enough

I can drop those bolt shooters but I like the idea of having some artillery. Anyway. Let's assume that I will drop them. What should I buy for the points spared? Or should I pay for the updrades with the bolt shooters?

[toby]

The usefulness of the bolt-shooters depends on your style of play. If you are defensive or like to sit with a phalanx waiting for the enemy, they can be quite useful. If you are an agressive player and are zooming your phalanx around the battlefield, they won't be much use probably.

[Michal Ciemniewski]

true

I will drop them to get few extra points for upgrades but I will paint the elements to use them in first few games.

[Michal Ciemniewski]

Ok. Few updates and the list is ready:

1 Antiochus III the Great Reg Kn(X) CinC br
5 Catafracts Reg Kn(X)
2 Elephants Irr El(S)
3 Skythians Irr Lh(F)

1 Sub-general Reg Pk(S) SG
7 Argyraspids Reg Pk(S)
12 Phalanx Reg Pk(O)
6 Asiatic slingers Irr Ps(O)

1 Sub-general Reg Kn(F) SG
2 Tarantines Reg Lh(O)
3 Galatian cavalry Irr Cv(O)
6 Thureophoroi and thorakitai Reg Ax(S)
4 Kappadokian Irr Ps(S)

Total: 400 AP

[toby]

Draft version of the Seleucid list is now available on the DBMM List, if you want to see the shape of things to come. Early seleucid are now 1-8 El(O)!!!

[Michal Ciemniewski]

I am not sure if my list is still an early period...

1 - 8 elephants? What a herd!


Where can I find the list?

[LAP1964]

You can find the list at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/DBMMlist.  In the files section.
LES.

[Michal Ciemniewski]

Funny thing with the new elephants. The rulesbook gives Seleucid elephants as an expample for El(S) and no El(S) in the list

Another change important to me is the galatian Cv limits.

We will see what changes the new book 2 will provide.

[LAP1964]

Bear in mind this is only the first draft. LES.

[Michal Ciemniewski]

I do.