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General Category => Rules Questions => Topic started by: Neil Williamson on April 10, 2021, 01:48:21 AM

Title: Expanding an impetuous group
Post by: Neil Williamson on April 10, 2021, 01:48:21 AM

Say I have some impetuous LH(S) in a group and I wish to expand the frontage.
Do I have to hold the rest of the group when the column expands?
So if I'm the group below, is it just 1 pip as a whole group move, or is it regarded as 2 groups (GNOP being separate sub group, see below) and therefore 2 pips. 1 to hold and one to expand the GNOP column?

Original formation
A B C D E  F  G
H  I J  K L M N
                       O
                       P

New formation
ABCDEFGO
HI JKLMNP

Ref. pages 28 and 29 in the rule book (32 to 33 in later reprints)

Title: Re: Expanding an impetuous group
Post by: LawrenceG1 on April 13, 2021, 10:54:13 AM

Expanding a column only involves the elements in the column. You have to hold the elements that are not in the column separately.

In this case 1 PIP to expand the column, 1 PIP to halt everyone else.

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Original formation
ABCDEFG
HIJKLMN
      O
      P

New formation
ABCDEFGO
HIJKLMNP

Title: Re: Expanding an impetuous group
Post by: Neil Williamson on April 14, 2021, 10:17:05 PM

Thanks and thanks for the tip
Looks like ive been playing it incorrectly for 3 years

Title: Re: Expanding an impetuous group
Post by: LawrenceG1 on April 15, 2021, 08:55:24 AM

The way the rules are written tends to lead to a lot of that.

In this particular case it is "expand a column" not "expand the frontage of a unit" which is the usual formulation in other rules, so it's an easy mistake to make.