Suggestions for v2.1

[Barritus]

I understand that there are amendments proposed for version 2.1 of the rules.

Perhaps this thread might be used for people to propose and discuss amendments...

For myself, I was wondering about the idea of a new stratagem, tentatively called Bribe an Enemy Ally. The idea would be that the stratagem would allow you to nominate an enemy ally general who must reroll his first PIP dice, and take the lower of the two dice rolls. It thus nearly doubles the chance of the ally being unreliable.

A possible additional ability is that, if the enemy ally is unreliable with a first natural 1 on the PIP dice, you could save the stratagem until the enemy C-in-C commits PIPs to make the ally loyal. In this case the ally would become reliable only on a roll of 6 for their next attempt.

[LawrenceG1]

I think that stratagem already exists.

It costs 0 AP and the effect is the ally becomes unreliable if he rolls a 1 on his first PIP dice.

[Duncan Head]

Too late, I think. Phil on the Yahoo dbmmlist today:

DBMM 2.1 is finished but  delayed by the printers going bust.

[Barritus]

Too late, I think. Phil on the Yahoo dbmmlist today:

DBMM 2.1 is finished but  delayed by the printers going bust.

Oh.

Is there any summary of the changes from v2 to v2.1?

[Duncan Head]

No list - we don't know which of the discussed changes have got through, let alons which others Phil may not have mentioned in public. One that's probable is that the "+2 on more" shooting for Bows (S) will be limited to regulars, with Irr Bw (S) only getting a +1; and associated with that the now-Bw (O) Welsh becoming Irr Bw(S), and maybe Indians becoming (S) again as well, though there was quite a heavy resistance staged against the Indians so I am not sure if they are changing or not.

[Doug M.]

No list - we don't know which of the discussed changes have got through, let alons which others Phil may not have mentioned in public. One that's probable is that the "+2 on more" shooting for Bows (S) will be limited to regulars, with Irr Bw (S) only getting a +1; and associated with that the now-Bw (O) Welsh becoming Irr Bw(S), and maybe Indians becoming (S) again as well, though there was quite a heavy resistance staged against the Indians so I am not sure if they are changing or not.

A request has been made for a change summary. But the problems with the printers seem to have created a further delay. Several people have asked Phil to use this as an opportunity for a final sanity check of the changes, preferably by 'devious competition' players, just to see if any loopholes or gross imbalances have inadvertently been created.  Changes under discussion are very difficult to determine, as Phil seems to have randomly responded to a variety of calls for changes on subjects as diverse as: Bw(X), Art(F), Bw(S), Bd causing Cv to flee when beaten, minor oddities in combat outcomes and so on.

My own expectation is that there will be quite a number of changes as he doesn't seem to be able to resist tinkering. Whether this will create any real problems...  who knows. I will be doing my usual, scanning my copy, and then reorganising and 'parpahrasing' as well as adding an index.