March move with drawing

[Fred V]

Hi,

Reading the previous topic about it, it seems beeing english or not doesn't help understanding (c) in :

A march move must start further than 400p from all known enemy not (a) Light Horse or Psiloi, or (b) beyond a friendly PF or TF, or (c) that would be contacted on a flank or rear edge or rear corner by a hypothetical group move 400p straight forward.

So maybe a drawing will help.
Looking at my picture (I hope it will stay online for long) :
http://www.hiboox.com/lang-fr/image.php?img=men89eh0.gif

The last Cv march move around the Bd will be when any part of the two Cv elements will finish a march move into :
1) the yellow area
2) the green or yellow area
3) the orange, green or yellow area
4) another area you need to explain me so that I draw it

Thanks for your hep

[DaveMather]

5 Cant take my eyes off of the advert 

[DaveMather]

Sadly its now changed to a boring laptop

The Cv will not be able to march again once they have entered yellow/green

Orange is a bit trickier they can only keep marching in orange if their straight ahead march move will take them onto the flank or rear edge or rear corner of the Bd

If the Bd were facing the other way eg turn them 180 degrees they (the cavalry) could march right through yellow into contact with the Bd (if they had enough PIPs)

Regards


David Mather

[Hammy]

Why not try a really interesting one. Given the diagram turn the Bd 180 and shift them just over one base to either side. If the Cv advance one of the Bd will not be contacted bt a straight ahead move so the Cv can't march or at least that is what I think the rulse say. :'(

[DaveMather]

I am inclined to agree with you -

Now whether it was the intent .......

Regards

David Mather

[Hammy]

I am inclined to agree with you -

Now whether it was the intent .......

Regards

David Mather

Good point, it won't be the first part of the DBMM rules where what is clearly written is not what Phil wants the rules to mean. Take a look at allied generals and work out from the rules what happens to a flank marching ally if one of your on table commands breaks before it turns up.

Hammy

[nftaylor]

The flank marching ally does not have his reliability established until he arrives.

Until his reliability is established then if one of his own side's commands is broken then there are two possible scenarios.

If the ally is irregular and of a different nation or its the civil war situation then he changes sides
Otherwise all elements of the flank marching ally command become disheartened.

It seems pretty clear unless I'm missing some cunning subtlety!

Niall

[nftaylor]

Dave has pointed out to me that Phil intends to modify this rule in future editions such that an ally general who flank marches is always reliable for this purpose. Personally, unless this is an official clarification, then I'd prefer to play the rules as they are written now rather than how they may be written in the future!

Niall

[Hammy]

Dave has pointed out to me that Phil intends to modify this rule in future editions such that an ally general who flank marches is always reliable for this purpose. Personally, unless this is an official clarification, then I'd prefer to play the rules as they are written now rather than how they may be written in the future!

Niall

Actually Phil stated on the DBMM list that the rules clearly didn't say what the actually say and was rather rude to Dave Ruddock who pointed this issue out.

This can't be 'clarified' as what is weritten is perfectly clear. It could however be ammended.

[nftaylor]

Phil rude to critics? Surely not 

Yes, I recall the exchange. I'm afraid that Phil's intervention confused rather than clarified. What the rule says is pretty clear. What Phil meant it to say is something else again.

[DaveMather]

For those interested you will find it on the clarifications section of this site's "parent"

http://dbmm.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=42

Assume the fact its dated Friday 13th is just chance

Moving a bit off thread now

Regards


David Mather

[Hammy]

For those interested you will find it on the clarifications section of this site's "parent"

http://dbmm.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=42

Whatever Phil would like to think this should be in errata not clarifications. It is a plain and simple change to what is clearly written in the rules.

[nftaylor]

Yes, I entirely agree with Hammy.

Niall