When is a Concealed Command revealed ?

[foxgom]

Hi


when is a concealed command put on the table?

Before or after the PIP roll ?

It makes a difference for a regular command:

After the roll = command dices independantly.

Before the die roll = command is allocated a die according to PIP-plan.


neil

[LawrenceG]

No guidance in the strategems section other than "until the 2nd bound...", or Sequence of play.

In PIP dicing on p 26 it says "The CinC ... dices... at the start of each of his side's bounds..."

If dicing is at the start, then deployment of the concealed command must be after the start.

An online dictionary definition of "until" has it meaning "before", so "not until" means "not before". This is consistent with the above.

Therefore it dices independently, but you know how many PIPs you have before you deploy.

This is my opinion based on the rules wording, I don't know if that is what was intended or if there is an accepted practice.

LAwrence Greaves

[jonathan]

Surely a concealed command must be analogous to other types of "hidden" commands (delayed, flank marching and particularly those totally concealed in ambush) and should dice independently because at the start of the first two bounds they are hidden. I would imagine that would create some command difficulty even for a regular army.

Naturally I'm writing this based on what I believe to be logical which might be the same thing as a correct interpretation of the rules. Anyway, for what it's worth, those are my thoughts.

Jonathan