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foxgom

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Recoiling on a tower
« on: December 30, 2014, 02:27:10 PM »
Hi

we are preparing for a siege game and I am slightly unsure on one point:

There is a tower with a 40 by 40 mm area on top of it.
It is held by one bow element.
A siege tower shoots at the bow and causes it to recoil.
Does the bow recoil 20mm and remain on the tower?

If it were to recoil a second time, it would recoil out of the tower and be placed in the town next to the tower.
If it were to be recoiled by close combat or shooting by artillery, it would be destroyed.

If the bow can recoil and remain on the tower, then an assaulting element can presumably attack an undefended tower.

neil fox

LawrenceG1

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Re: Recoiling on a tower
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2014, 02:57:46 PM »
Bows flee from shooting by war wagons. However, foot can only leave a PF via a gate, so the bow would not be able to flee out of the tower if there was no gate. In that case I assume it would stop after the recoil.

Your question would also apply if the shooters are bows or shot.

You cannot recoil across fortifications you have not previously crossed. Therefore it would be unable to recoil a second time.

I note that a recoil from a PF wall-walk is a base width, not depth, but AFAIK a tower is not a wall-walk.

foxgom

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Re: Recoiling on a tower
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 09:50:38 PM »
Hi

Foot can leave PF on the inside.
See the 4 bullets in the middle of page 11.
A tactical move would be from the top of the tower to the ground next to the tower on the inside of the BUA (or vice versa).

So the WWg shooting would cause a bow in the tower to flee out of the tower into the BUA.
If a spear was defending the tower it would recoil one base depth and still be on the tower.
A second recoil would cause the spear to recoil to the bottom of the tower inside the PF.

The bit about not recoiling across fortifications you have not crossed surely applies to attackers who can only recoil back where they have left ladders.
Defenders have moved onto the PF from the inside via stairs, so should have no bother retreating back down those stairs.

It is strange that the recoil is a base width on a PF wall walk but a base depth on a PF tower....

neil

LawrenceG1

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Re: Recoiling on a tower
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 04:56:50 AM »


The bit about not recoiling across fortifications you have not crossed surely applies to attackers who can only recoil back where they have left ladders.
Defenders have moved onto the PF from the inside via stairs, so should have no bother retreating back down those stairs.

I think it also applies to defenders attacked with their backs against the wall by enemy that assaulted into the fortified area at another point (or that went around the end of a TF line).

This question highlights a few areas where what is written probably doesn't quite match what was intended.

Something to talk about at Milan.