Bursting through

[Marcel Bos]

I have problems reading the rule:

Friends it cannot pass through or avoid are burst through and flee in front of it if after both had moved it front edge would be ahead, otherwise behind it.

Please take a look at my example. I had a column on a road in a small valley. The LH was been shot at in DG (it just crossed a river) and, while it was beaten, had to flee. The only way, for all troops was to flee back along the road. First the LH recoiled through the PS, turned 180o and moved his flee move in GG. There was a domino-effect and all the troops behind were burst through and had to flee. In the example I made the flee moves for all the troops, and afterwards, starting with the element most behind (the LH) I placed them in a new order. Some troops fled further then there normal move. (Some troops even leave my 'paper'.  )

Is this according to the rules?

Thanks,

Marcel

[landmeister]

I basically agree, except for elements Kn(F) K, Pk M, Pk N, Pk O and Pk P. Technically speaking, theare not burst through by the LH element, so they shouldn't flee with it. So the question is do they stay there while all their frontal companions flee away too?  Certainly a complicated situation. I don't have the rules with me. Could someone confirm that a burst through element fleeing away that is also bursting through makes the new ones to flee away too?  What a mess!! 

[Tim Child]

I think that this is a classic example where no rules would really help you out!  As a comp. umpire I have seen some really bizarre flee-moves in DBM, and in several cases the players just said "We can't work it out - do the flee moves as you think best and we'll get on with the game from there."   

Tim Child

[Marcel Bos]

Could someone confirm that a burst through element fleeing away that is also bursting through makes the new ones to flee away too?

Nobody has come forward to confirm or disagree, but it seems logic to me.
The burst through elements are also fleeing, so the rules of fleeing and breaking through elements further backward apply also to them.
The only difference I can see is, that a 'normal' fleeing element can, in some circumstances, change direction before the flight, and a 'broken through' fleeing element flees in the same direction as the element that was bursting through.
Just don't let it happen in your army. 

Thanks, both of you,

Marcel

[landmeister]

Nobody has come forward to confirm or disagree, but it seems logic to me.

Maybe no one knows the answer!  And remember...logic and DBMM are not always compatible words 

The burst through elements are also fleeing, so the rules of fleeing and breaking through elements further backward apply also to them.

Maybe, but thid would create a chain effect that IMO I don't think is the intention of the rules.  But who knows.

[MikeCampbell]

Fleeing elements burst through where appropriate, and cause other elements to flee - AFAIK it makes no difference WHY they are fleeing - from combat, from morale, from being burst through themselves - it's all the same.