Old DBM armies and new DBMM armies

[Nicofig]

Hi,
I would know if there are some changes about basing ? Or Can I use my old DBM armies with the DBMM rules ? Must I have more figures or less than a classic dbm army ?
Thank you 

[Sgt Steiner]

If like me you had your Gallic army based as Wb(F) with Gaestati as Wb(S) you will face re-basing the bulk of foot as Wb(O) with Gaestati as Wb(F)  .

[jack startin]

Yeah, that's a real *"+!

And it's not as if the base change is an increase, so giving the solution to just glue a larger base to the underneath, adding suitable extra base stuff.

Can you trim down the existing bases?

[Sgt Steiner]

Hi

I have most of my Gallic types double-based and trimming 10mm overall would be nigh on impossible not to mention it would most likely look like a hack job 

Also the lack of extra figures would I know only end up annnoying me greatly 

So its either re-base (which would mean I could use them as Galatian as well as Gauls) or convert to using as Ancient British (bit more restrictive for historical match-ups)

Getting the wee sods off their current base-texed bases might be tad difficult.....................

[jack startin]

Perhaps give them a soak in a shallow tray with water just over the base stuff.  Try to prise a figure off every so osten to see how soft the base stuff has got.  I soaked some for 24 hrs once before they'd come off.

[Sgt Steiner]

Hi

Thanks for the tip

24hrs eh 

[bunwin63]

Looks like I've got to rebase my Hannibal's Gauls as Bd, my Companions in a wedge, and change my Indian BwX to Bd & Bw. That should be all though
Bryan

[bunwin63]

Good question. Persians, Arabs or something Medieval I think. And you can run whatever you feel like!
Had a bit of a solo run through. It's hard having to un-learn DBM. I've established that Sp(I) vs Sp(I) is a lot quicker than before.

[Sgt Steiner]

Hi

Ref the Gallic change to Wb(O) I posed the following question on the Dbmm Yahoo group and was answered by PB himself. Seems there is some hope that Wb (F) may remain an option for Gauls :-)

Cheers

> Hi Phil
>
> I know you are busy with Bk3 armies but quick question ref Gallic types
>
>> > Gallic Warband are now Wb(O) instead of Wb(F).
>
> In the DBM Gallic list you (?) or RBS state "There is some controversy
> as to wether most western Gauls fought in close formation or loose.
> Since they are described as charging rapidly from difficult terrain
> and lacking staying power we favour loose (F) as more likely."
> The list therefore allowed warriors to be either all (F) or all (O)
> can I ask what has changed your thinking to making them (O) only ?
> Is the option for (F) still not plausible and thereby optional ?
> No problem with the Gaestati becoming (F) as their Alpine home more
> rugged (ie suits the looser definition)
>
> Additionally do Soldurii stay as (S) ?
>
> I ask of course as my Celtic hordes are based as (F) :-)
>
> Regards

(O) have had their DG terrain disadvantage reduced, so the (F) option is no
longer necessary.
I will probably allow both, but make (O) the preferred solution. However,
wargamers have in the past often been reconciled to rebasing by a perceived
game advantage.

[toby]

Hold on with rebasing Hannibal's Gauls until Book 2 comes out - the entry for them in the rules is pretty cryptic and Phil won't elaborate...

IIRC the last word he had on it was that it would after Cannae, which is ironic since the Bd(I) rating is supposed to reflect their behaviour at Cannae!

[Aloysius the Gaul]

Make your Gauls into Ancient Brits by buying a few chariots!!

Dunno what the confusion over Bd(I) gauls in Hannibal's army is - other generals might not get them, but Hannibal certainly will by Trebia.

Of course that will mean you ahve to buy him as Brilliant too, whether you like it or not.

[bactrian5]

I've just recieved my rule book after a hiatis of almost 10 years away from the game.
two questions;
1) In which book are the Punic wars armies?
2) Has anyone seen revised army lists for the Roman and Carthaginians?

I'm starting off with matching 1/72 plastic armies to keep initial costs down before I go to 25mm lead and need troop type changes and basing info.

[Aloysius the Gaul]

All the Punic War armies are in book 2.  I'm not aware of any major changes except gauls under Hannibal will be Bd(I) instead of Wb.

[Corybantes]

What about pictish with their Ax(X) in DBM and now Pk(F) ?
Must I re-basing all my army

[Corybantes]

The picts are still fine, pike fast are still 20mm deep.

cheers chris

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