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foxgom

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Attacking a TF corner
« on: December 22, 2008, 08:44:36 PM »
Hi

I have temporary fortifications placed in a rectangular shape.
A blade defends one of the corners of the TF.
He is attacked across the two TFs, one from straight ahead, one across the TF to his right.
Can anyone explain how the combat is done?

I have found the following, but have not found it particularly helpful:
P 42 Storming fortifications:
A tower assaulted by 2 elements fights each in succession [but this is not a tower].
Troops escalading... do not overlap.

I think that defenders cannot be overlapped by attackers outside the TF and suspect the best way is to treat the corner like a tower and fight each element in succession.

Is anyone sure how this one works?

neil fox

MikeCampbell

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Re: Attacking a TF corner
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2008, 02:50:44 AM »
AFAIK it fights to its front and has enemy in contact with its flank - so it is destroyed if it loses.  it is not in a tower so there is no reason to assume that it would fight in that manner as far as I can see.

However I can't actually find the bit that says that contact with a TF is the same as contact with an element behind it - I used to know where it was in DBM....but can't find it in 'MM  ???

andrew

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Re: Attacking a TF corner
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2008, 07:51:20 AM »
However I can't actually find the bit that says that contact with a TF is the same as contact with an element behind it - I used to know where it was in DBM....but can't find it in 'MM  ???
Not quite what you are seeking but see the top of page 35.  It could be argued the defender isn't defending both TFs so does Blade #2 (on the flank) fight the undefended fortification first?

LawrenceG

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Re: Attacking a TF corner
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2008, 11:26:05 AM »
AFAIK it fights to its front and has enemy in contact with its flank - so it is destroyed if it loses.  it is not in a tower so there is no reason to assume that it would fight in that manner as far as I can see.

However I can't actually find the bit that says that contact with a TF is the same as contact with an element behind it - I used to know where it was in DBM....but can't find it in 'MM  ???

P35, top, initiating a close combat with an element includes contact "with an intervening fortification".

P37 Tactical factor -1 for enemy elements in front edge combat (not contact) with a side or rear edge.

P38 Outcomes for less than but over half: destroyed if enemy "in contact with its flank" (not combat).

So the defender gets a -1 tactical factor but does not get quick-killed unless it would have been anyway.

(unless someone can find a bit that says that contact with a TF is the same as contact with an element behind it )

MikeCampbell

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Re: Attacking a TF corner
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2008, 10:32:27 PM »
Lawrence - that works for me :)

Thanks

andrew

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Re: Attacking a TF corner
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 04:59:40 AM »
The full rules states : "or an intervening fortification or PO it is defending behind".  Does such an element simultaneously defend behind two corner sections of fortifications?

LawrenceG

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Re: Attacking a TF corner
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 08:20:23 AM »
IMO if it is behind a fortification and it is defending then it is defending behind that fortification. Hence a defending element is defending behind all the fortifictions that it is behind.