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Barritus

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Options for allied contingents
« on: October 30, 2010, 02:26:11 PM »
The notes about allies at the start of the list books say that they can take the "regrades and replacements" available in the year the contingent is from.

How much flexibility does this provide?

In particular, if I want to take Later Moorish allies for an African Vandal army, can I give the Moorish infantry the tethered camel barricade? It's a Portable Obstacle, and it isn't compulsory. Would it count as a regrade or replacement?

Tim Child

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Re: Options for allied contingents
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 02:29:36 AM »
Personally, I don't see the POs as a "regrade or replacement", but I suspect that you can have them anyway.  I would rule that this is a variant of the "0-1 per X" rule, as these have to be keyed to Ax(O) and are in essence 0-1 per Ax(O) with a maximum of 24.

Tim Child

Orcoteuthis

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Re: Options for allied contingents
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2010, 09:02:07 PM »
They're not a "regrade or replacement" - if they were, they'd replace something (along the lines of "regrade legionaries as of penal legion - Reg Bd (I)", or "replace crossbowmen with handgunners - Reg Ps (S)")

Neither, despite the mention of javelinmen, do they have an allowance of the type "X per Y Z", so you can't appeal to that to include them.

All, that said, I'm not entirely sure whether you can have them. The rules on allied contingents are expressed in terms of what troops they can include, and PO are not troops. An allied contingent can only include compulsory troops - does that mean it can never include obstacles or fortifications no matter what, or that you can take them even if they're wholly optional because the restriction doesn't apply? The former interpretation seems more linguistically straightforward but would produce some odd results (no stakes for HYW English allies?).