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landmeister

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Psiloi killing rear elements
« on: October 14, 2007, 04:41:01 PM »
Hi again,

What happens to rear elements when a Psiloi i killed in close combat? They are specified as an exception to troops killing what they have behind them? Does it mean that they kill everyone o no one behind them?

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2007, 09:19:44 PM »
Psiloi behind them die. Other elements behind them only die if they have an enemy element in contact with the whole of their side edge.

landmeister

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2007, 10:31:38 AM »
Mmmmm. I don't have the rules with me right now, but I don't remember the place specifiying it. I'll have to check it later.  :)

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2007, 01:24:28 PM »
they are an exception because they die behind other troops, not because they have an effect on troops behind them.

landmeister

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2007, 03:22:13 PM »
they are an exception because they die behind other troops, not because they have an effect on troops behind them.

This is just what I wanted to check in the rules. For what I read, no one dies behind a psiloi, including a second rank psiloi!  :-\. I'm afraid I didn't understand your first answer "Psiloi behind them die". Are you talking about any non psiloi element dying in front a friendly psiloi?

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2007, 04:31:36 PM »
Nobody dies behind Psiloi

However Psiloi will die if the element in front is destroyed (unless it is Psiloi)

p40 Destroyed Elements

"Normally, only a single element is destroyed. However, when an element other than Psiloi is destroyed while in close combat, all friendly elements with any part directly behind are also destroyed if their nearest part is less than the destroyed element?s base depth from its original rear edge, and:
?   They are foot, and the destroyed element?s frontal opponent was Warband.
?   They are Bows or Shot and the destroyed element?s frontal opponent was Expendables or Knights or Camelry (S).
?   They are Psiloi, Hordes or Artillery and the element immediately in front is destroyed.
?   They were required by their army list to be double-based with the destroyed element.
?   An enemy element?s front edge is in contact with all of their side edge.
?   The destroyed element was Elephants or Expendables."


That was the reason for my comment elsewhere about supporting Psiloi do pay a price. If the bloke in front (eg Ax Bd, Sp) dies so do they in either bound whether they are counting as supporting are not.

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David Mather


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landmeister

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2007, 07:06:50 PM »
Ok, I see. Thank you very much.  ;)

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2007, 10:53:28 AM »
I was talking bollocks when I said that Psiloi died behind Psiloi - my apologies.

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Re: Psiloi killing rear elements
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2007, 04:09:45 PM »
I was talking bollocks when I said that Psiloi died behind Psiloi - my apologies.

I could not have phrased it any better  ;)

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