Brilliant/Inert Ally Generals

[Valentinian Victor]

I really think this also needs looking at by Phil when he is looking at the rules again. My belief, shared by others, is that elements that are lost remain lost and therefore any command that does not arrive by the eighth bound is lost and its elements are lost as well. It wont affect the army much other than to lower the ME level for the army as a whole to break.

[foxgom]

Hi

I completely agree with Barritus.

If a flank march takes a long time to arrive, the army is depressed and thinks they are not coming.
If they do arrive a bound later everyone is happy again.

P43 "Victory and Defeat"
The rules are clear: if the lost elements plus the late elements add up to > 50% of the ME, the army breaks. The late elements are late and not lost.

neil fox

[Barritus]

I really think this also needs looking at by Phil when he is looking at the rules again. My belief, shared by others, is that elements that are lost remain lost...

No argument with you there.

...and therefore any command that does not arrive by the eighth bound is lost and its elements are lost as well.

But I disagree with you here. Your "therefore" isn't in the rules. "Haven't arrived" <> "lost".

[MikeCampbell]

Yes - exactly.

there is NOTHING in the rules to say that flank marching elements that have not arrived by T8 are lost.

the only flank marchers that ever count as lost are Baggage and elements that lack PIPs to arrive of a driven back unsuccessful flank march (see pg 31)

[Valentinian Victor]

It would appear I was suffering a 'senior moment' and read too much into one sentence in the rule book.
Please accept my apologies folks.

[Barritus]

Don't worry about it. We've all had experiences like this. It's the nature of the rules as they're currently written.